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Re: Sugar Shock/Wild N Free Forever a agent?

Post by obsolescenttears on Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:18 pm

This girl is only 14 years old WOW. How many gliders does she have? How long has she been into gliders? People mentioned her breeding and rescues, are there any other posts on LGG or GC that you can direct me to to find out more about her. I am just surprised at how advanced she is into the glider world being only 14, she bred, has rescues, is brokering, and has managed to piddle off a good section of the community. All at 14 years old. Sounds like you guys know a con-woman's roots. By the time she is legal who knows what kind of trouble she can cause.

Agree with Laurie, where the hell is this childs mother? Why is anyone allowing a child this young to get this many animals especially something as special needs as a sugar glider. I am guessing from postings that this mother is trash and useless. Unfortunate to say the least.

:evil: Its just sad.
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Post by newby-sherri on Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:55 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong Val, but didnt she get and start breeding her first gliders when she was 12? I think thats how old she was, when we first started dealing with her on USGN.
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Post by usha77 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:00 pm

I believe so, too, Sherri.
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Post by Suggiemom on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:18 pm

Yes it was her and her little friend. They would trade screen names, etc. and pretend to not know each other, pretend to be older, etc. I really tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but it just comes back to bite you in the arse.

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Post by Feather on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:38 pm

Well the bottom line is the parent is responsible for the minor childs actions. If said child is turned in for brokering gliders without a permit then the parent is going to get the heat.

I am not well enough versed in the USDA laws regarding breeding, selling, brokering..... of gliders, but maybe a post should be made on SGC about these laws and maybe the parent will see it and wise up.
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Post by Suggiemom on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:41 pm

Don't quote me here, but I THINK the mom is USDA licensed.

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Post by obsolescenttears on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:53 pm

Honestly, if the parent hasnt given a crap thus far I highly doubt shes going to be on SGC or anywhere else and checking into this crap.

Wow since 12 thats amazing. It makes since if the mum is into gliders to that the child would have them, that clears that up.

Still pathedic.

She weas breeding rescues or just was collecting them for resale? I am shocked someone so young already doing such BS stuff.
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Post by Suggiemom on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:57 pm

She was breeding rescues. She was trolling for free gliders and then breeding and selling the offspring. She knew exactly what she was doing as she took great steps trying to hide it. She's been banned from nearly every forum there is. She's a very smart kid, and unfortunately, also very devious when she wants to be.

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Post by obsolescenttears on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:59 pm

Wow, tisk starting out a jack donkey butt so young. Wish smart kids would put their talents to good things vs bad. Pity parenting these days is in the pooper.

I dont think 100% blame can be put on the parent though, shes a human, she can have her own morals, her own thoughts, tis her choice to be a Dumbdonkeybutt.
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Post by Suggiemom on Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:02 pm

Yep. She knows right from wrong and chooses to do wrong. But, her mama should be there to correct her when she does wrong instead of inflicting her on the general population....LOL

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Post by obsolescenttears on Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:04 pm

:funny stuff: Inflicting.
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Post by Suggiemom on Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:48 pm

LOL well hey, when my kids are being asses, I don't take them out in public. Just sayin'.

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Post by Feather on Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:19 pm

Suggiemom wrote:Don't quote me here, but I THINK the mom is USDA licensed.
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Well wouldn't that be just great, if she is USDA licensed she is basically enableing her kid. Maybe she is mill breeding some other poor animal. :faint:
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Post by SugaWhit on Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:49 pm

Man, would any of you believe this chick showed up at my House with her mother?
Reeny was coming to my gathering I hosted awhile back, and somehow this girl and her mother drove by them, saw Reeny playing with a glider, and none of them knowing any better, exchanged numbers, and gave her mine.

She called a a little later and asked for directions and if she could come.
Not knowing who she was, and being new to the glider boards, I welcomed her, and gave her directions.
Candy, Reeny and others from the boards were all there when this girl showed up. She had 5 gliders in a pouch, in the sun, and told another person there she had joeys for sale.

The mother asked me if she we had these gatherings often, I told her truthfully that I thought so, but was new to the boards, and the glider community.
The mother seemed well spoken, and dressed, and ruefully admitted that they were cutting down as the daughter had gotten "over her head".

Shortly afterwards, when we were all in the barn eating, she told everyone her screen name, and the whole place just got quite.

Blissfully ignorant, I didn't understand what was going on.
They left shortly after, and then it was explained to me what behavior had caused everyone to get quite. Quite the excitment, but it really saddened me.
She attatched herself to me on GC for a little while, but I just ignored her, as I didn't know what else to do with her.
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Post by Suggiemom on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:33 pm

Unless they don't know it's her or they've let her back on, she was banned from GC...was this recently? I ALMOST feel sorry for her because she's sort of trying now, but she's ruined any chance of having trust in this community.

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Post by MatchMakersMagic on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:38 pm

If she was at your place Whitney SELLING gliders when she's been known to troll for rescues and breed them/other gliders willy nilly... Im sorry you were exposed to that at your home. I would stay far from this one, and also never adopt TO her either.

Too bad I wasn't able to go to that gathering. Would of been a pretty interesting afternoon. PROMISE though if another one is planned Im coming hell or high water... And dragging Davie (bindiandscrubbie) with me too! :twisted:

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Post by Suggiemom on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:42 pm

I really blame this girls mother. She obviously allows the girl unlimited access to a computer and has for YEARS. She was at one time at least, USDA licensed. I think Nancy talked to her mom at one time and explained all that Lauren was up to, but it fell on deaf ears because shortly after that, she was right back to trolling, etc.

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Post by MatchMakersMagic on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:48 pm

Yes I believe that is how the story went. This child has been out of control from "go". Unfortunately though unlike most other young adults she's shown little evidence of ACTUAL behavior change. Just recently I remember she came back with a vengance determined to breed a trio of rescues. She's had other stints too - like creating that website and forum (message board I dont remember) where she intended on posting those rescues for sale.

I feel sorry for those gliders. They need better treatment than that.

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Post by jen102375 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:17 pm

Cant we post somthing on the sugar glider central so people don't buy from her or is there anything we can do to shut her down?
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Post by Suggiemom on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:18 pm

She pretty much has the run of the place over there because that site is not moderated at all.

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Post by SugaWhit on Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:08 pm

This may be awful of me, but I was pretty releaved that I ended up leaving Fievel and kitty at home. The idea of disease makes me nervous!
And yes, it was most certianly her on GC. If you look at my gathering post on GC you will see where she talks about showing up.
I was mortified once I found out who/what she was, as was Reeny and the rest! Bleh


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Post by desertmommy on Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:40 pm

I posted in this thread, on August 12th, that she had reregistered on GC.

I didn't find this more current thread when I was looking. Sorry, sure wish I had.

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Post by TWilson on Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:00 pm

Here is her latest add on hoobly. These babies are around 13 weeks old from what I can calculate, brother and sister and she wants to sell them as a pair. (Needs money for a horse show)
From her previous add on them, the male was not neutered and she said her vet charges $200 or better for neuters so I'm guessing she's not going to neuter the male before she sells them.
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Post by MatchMakersMagic on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:54 am

Ick.. Whitney who are you using for a vet?

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Post by SugaWhit on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:48 pm

I made an appointment with the vet clinic in the Promenade just to do wellness checks and establish.
However the vet is heading out of town, so I am talking to another glider friend about some vets a little farther south that may be open more hours.
Who do you use? I'd love a to use someone you already know for sure, as my old vet no longer does gliders or any other exoctic small animals sadly.
She did say if I got into a bind, to call, but I was just talking to the same friend about finding a vet for everyday things for them.
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