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Re: Lily Turner - creationdeviation@yahoo.com

Post by Suggiemom on Tue May 17, 2011 6:06 pm

Hmmmm makes me want to do some digging of my own. I used to be quite good at finding stuff....lol

The thing is, if they're doing something wrong, there is ALWAYS a trail. First you find one lil thing, that connects to something else...then more happens.....pretty soon, they've hung themselves.

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Re: Lily Turner - creationdeviation@yahoo.com

Post by NJG-Lisa on Tue May 17, 2011 7:14 pm

I cant stand shady people who do caca like this.. Using other peoples pictures only tells me they dont have gliders, and its a scam.. finding out they sell fake ID's to minors also tells me they cant be trusted.

IF jerks like this continue to scam people as far as the gliders are concerned, its only going to make it harder for us to do business. People are going to get burned and it will reflect badly on the glider community.

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Re: Lily Turner - creationdeviation@yahoo.com

Post by NJG-Lisa on Tue May 17, 2011 8:31 pm

Well all, was nice to hear from her today..LOL

I sent her this:

To creationdeviation@yahoo.com, creationdeviation@hotmail.com
From: Tori Stillwagon (brat_princess_2004@hotmail.com)
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:41:31 PM
To: creationdeviation@yahoo.com; creationdeviation@hotmail.com
I was asking around about a fake id and a friend pointed me to your email. I was not sure which one to use so I used both the yahoo and the hotmail.

Im 17 but have been told that I look older, so I guess that is in my favor. lol.. Id like to get one that says I am 21. I have friends who play in bars where you have to be 18 or 21 to even enter, and I hate being the only one not able to go and see them. :(

Please let me know what you need from me, how much it will cost, where I send the money, etc.

I really appreciate it.

Thanks
Tori


She responded:


To brat_princess_2004@hotmail.com
From: Lily Turner (creationdeviation@yahoo.com)
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:59:48 PM
To: brat_princess_2004@hotmail.com
Always show content from creationdeviation@yahoo.com
Hi Tori. I don't feel like typing right now so I'm copying and pasting this from a different email. Let me know if you have any more questions.

I produce incredibly high quality ID's/passports.
>They have holos, are scannable, and are identical to legit ID's.
>The price of one ID is $200- I provide lower prices for bulk orders. If you have
>searched online, you will find that this is very inexpensive for the service I
>am providing. It will take 2-3 weeks
>for you to receive your ID unless you rush the order. Rushing the order costs an
>additional $50 and will ship your ID the next business day after receiving
>payment if the payment is received before 5PM PST. I will be taking orders on a
>first come first serve priority basis. I accept e-gift cards to the website of
>my choosing. Please reply to this email if you are still interested. I hope to
>do business with you very soon.
>Thank you
>P.S. Here is a link to samples of my work. You can clearly see the holos/UV
>http://s738.photobucket.com/albums/xx30/creationdeviation/


I sent her a note back stating that I did not know what an egift was and if what sites... lets see what happens..:)

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Post by DianeR on Tue May 17, 2011 8:51 pm

I do hope you will forward all of this to the authorities. These people are the same ones who raid mail boxes to steal identiies.
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Re: Lily Turner - creationdeviation@yahoo.com

Post by NJG-Lisa on Tue May 17, 2011 9:18 pm

Well, Ill tell you exactly what Im doing..:)

See, when you exchange emails with someone, what people forget or overlook when they are not paying attention, is that whoever recieves your email can pull the full header. In other words, the actual HTML of the email, that includes the ip from the sender.

In the header of that email she/he sent me, was not only the yahoo IP out of CA, but also the ip of the

University of California, Irvine
Network and Academic Computing Services
5201 California Avenue, Suite 150

Now, I called the abuse dept to double check a few things, and while they will not give out info, they did verify that if their ip is on there, then it is likely that it was a computer accessed ON campus. so, he gave me the number for the UC Irvine law enforcement. Since my phone is going dead and it is after hours, Ill be calling them tomorrow..:)

So, it looks as if he/she is on campus. Whats funny is that the first thing I thought when I saw the sample ID's was California or Arizona.. I think perhaps they lived in Arizona. I have not looked yet to see where Irvine CA is compared to Arizona, but I would not be surprised if it was close.

She/he just emailed me back and this is what they said:

An e-gift card is just a gift card that is purchased and delivered online. It's really fast and easy. I'd want an e-gift card from walmart.com


From: Tori Tori <brat_princess_2004@hotmail.com>
To: creationdeviation@yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 5:26:55 PM
Subject: RE: fake id?

Im sorry I dont know what an egift is? what sites?


What Ill do, is tomorrow, Ill see if the police want to help set something up.. perhaps have them get the gift card and trace it to wherever the items are shipped. Normally people like this will shop online, and thinking gift cards can NOT be traced, well, think its all good.. however if the police are investigating, thats not the case.

We will just have to wait and see.. cross your fingers..

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Post by obsolescenttears on Tue May 17, 2011 9:45 pm

:o m g : Just wow.....
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Post by NJG-Lisa on Tue May 17, 2011 9:48 pm

Told you I would see what I can do to help out..lmao..


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Re: Lily Turner - creationdeviation@yahoo.com

Post by DianeR on Tue May 17, 2011 10:33 pm

Nice work! :clap ing:
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Post by kyro298 on Tue May 17, 2011 10:36 pm

Holy Shizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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Post by TWilson on Wed May 18, 2011 7:32 am

OMG!

Great job, Lisa!!! :clap ing:

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Post by victoriarose1982 on Wed May 18, 2011 10:49 am

Holy Crap. Nice work Lisa. Go get them!
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Post by obsolescenttears on Wed May 18, 2011 1:33 pm

I know, Lisa is scary! Wow tracked her to school - she could get expelled for this. :) What a shady person.
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Post by NJG-Lisa on Wed May 18, 2011 1:40 pm

OK, update..

Gave them all the info.. and they are going to investigate.. they sound very interested. I explained that we cant personally say that they took money for gliders they didnt have, but that I do see where they sell fake id's etc out of the university.

I gave them the emails with the price and way to send money.. where it says the quality and about the holograms, etc etc..

The officer is going to keep in touch with me and I will keep in touch with her..:) they have to get IT involved to help trace what computer lab the ip came out of.

Cross your fingers..:D

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Post by NJG-Lisa on Wed May 18, 2011 1:43 pm

LOL.. just read that.. lmao... I dont want to be scary... just not someone who likes scam and bullroses artists. Especially when it comes to what we do for a living or hobby.. That kind of crap will make it harder for us as breeders to find good homes for our Joeys.

1. people wont send money until they have the glider in hand,
2. we wont send a $1500 glider until we have money in hand.

its a no win situation, and result of scammers and people who are just shady.


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Post by obsolescenttears on Wed May 18, 2011 1:48 pm

Lisa, im glad we have you here!!! Its awesome!
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Post by usha77 on Wed May 18, 2011 11:15 pm

Agreed! Great job, Lisa & keep us updated!
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Post by BindiAndScrubbie on Thu May 19, 2011 4:48 am

:clap ing: Lisa you ARE good! LOL Being preggers is really fueling you up, huh? LOL Good job! What a criminal! Though now it's a shame I came in late on this thread....I would have had her make me a fake ID....to make me younger. :=)):
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Post by NJG-Lisa on Thu May 19, 2011 5:45 am

lol... well, for $200 plus $50 for speedy shipping..LOL.. oh, in walmart gift cards no less..lol

Im a passionate person... a protester of sorts.. when I was 8/9 months pregnant with my now 10 year old, I protested the slaughter of 2 pigs that the 4-H club allowed a public city school to raise like a pets.. Long story, but I was on TV, had an attorney, and fought like hell to get these pigs to a sanctuary. Saved one... 4-H directed hung the second and slit its throat saying, "we got one on them"... (meaning us)... course, its a shame the witnesses didnt testify, because it was inhumane what he did.

I was relentless to say the least.. LOL..

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Post by BindiAndScrubbie on Thu May 19, 2011 6:02 am

LOL You told me that story on the phone. But it's worth telling again. :funny stuff:
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Post by obsolescenttears on Thu May 19, 2011 10:14 am

That is so eff'd up..... Not cool.

And yeah when I was prego I went through spitfire sectors then super mellow sectors. Everyone said they liked it better when I was a girldog..... but I think they all just enjoyed talking behind my back saying 'Did you see what that crazypregob*** did now!!!'

<3 You are awesome Lisa!

PS Angela just emailed me saying she was going to email the lady again.
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Post by NJG-Lisa on Thu May 19, 2011 11:07 am

Oh, Im normally like this.. lol.. Ill fight like a girldog for whats right... guess being pregnant boosts it a little.. lol

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Post by angelic4296 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:27 pm

Lisa, whatever happened with this?
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Post by NJG-Lisa on Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:52 pm

sorry, wasnt around.. Ill try to get a hold of them and see if anything was found out. I did send an email a week after this and had not heard back..

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Post by angelic4296 on Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:29 pm

Can't wait for the update! I'm not good at playing detective lol...
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